Little Last Chance TAC Meeting Notes
May 2, 2006
Attendees: Ted
Ramelli, landowner; Don Guidici, landowner; Mark Dotta, landowner; Bill
Dickens, DWR Water Master; Dennis Heiman, RWQCB; Todd Hillaire & Kevin
Pond, DWR; Dan Martynn, NRCS; Joe Hoffman & Dave Seiler, USFS; John Hafen
& Tim Kurdupski, Trout Unlimited; Leslie Mink, Gia Martynn, & Jim
Wilcox, FRCRM
Discussion Points:
- Visited
Guidici Ranch, Leslie gave everyone an overview of the project. The
project is located on a one-mile segment of Little Last Chance Creek that
winds in and out of the boundary between Plumas National Forest and the
Guidici Ranch. The project is just
downstream of a Forest Service campground, and about three miles up from
Chilcoot on the Frenchman Lake Road.
The channel is confined in a gully on the west side of the
valley. An adequate floodplain has
formed within the gully. However,
vegetation, pre-dam deposition, and the existing topography have created a
more resistant forested west side of the gully, while the east side is
composed primarily of highly erodible alluvial silt. The difference in erodibility has
created an actively eroding east side bank 11 feet high, which is
contributing to finger gully formation in the meadow. Without treatment, the channel would be
expected to continue to migrate to the east until it hits a resistant
layer or something else that would develop an angle of repose on which
vegetation could become established that equals the vegetative resistance
on the west side of the gully.
This process would likely erode many acres of meadow and contribute
several hundred thousand tons of soil to downstream areas before
equilibrium is reached. The
concept for restoration would lay back banks, vegetate, and maintain the
direction of the flow away from the banks with boulder vanes. Treatment has been identified for the
east bank in 11 locations, and the west bank in two locations, totaling
134 boulder vanes. Each vane will
consist of approximately 10 cubic yards of 3-foot minus rock. The treatment would halt this source of
erosion, and direct the energy of flowing water into controlled vertical
bed scour (i.e. pool maintenance) rather than the existing horizontal bank
scour. One of the west bank
locations is threatening the FS 23N07 road, with active scouring less than
10’ from the road prism. Treatment
of that bank will protect the road from further erosion. Please see map showing identified
treatment areas. It should also be
noted that while this project can be implemented wholly on its own, it is
part of a larger project on Little Last Chance Creek. If the RAC funds this project, it will
allow the FR-CRM to use those monies as match for a Prop. 40 grant
application. Noted that coming
down canyon from Frenchman Lake the water was clear, but once we got to
the project site it was very turbid.
Sediment supply is coming from Guidici project area. As we were looking at one of the cut
banks, a large chunk of bank and sagebrush fell into the creek. See photo
below.
- Talked
with Water Master about options for diverting water during
construction. Landowner’s below
need their deliveries. Bill said
they are more likely to be willing to forgo deliveries later than earlier. Pumping water may be an option. One problem is there aren’t any other
channels to divert the water into.
One possibility may be the ranch below Simon’s property, the DNS
Ranch, might be able to divert the water into the other main channel (East
Creek?). Most of the water used
later in the season is for stock watering versus irrigation, but some
ranchers may be irrigating as late as October. Another possibility is to wait until November to start
construction, pending weather conditions.
- John
asked about grazing management post project. All landowners have agreed to fence off project area for 2-3
years of non-use to allow vegetation recovery.
- Bill
said 2 cfs is maintained for fish; however, nothing is left by the time it
reaches the Middle Fork.
- Downstream
of the Guidici project, the project area starts at the splitter dam (divides
the water into an east and north branch) and ends at Hwy. 70. Treatment is proposed on both branches,
and would involve putting riffles in the channel to raise the base level
(similar to Big Flat project). A
total of 4 miles of channel would be treated, with riffles every 200 feet
for a total of about 200 riffles.
- Mark
and Ted expressed their concerns with allowing flows to access the
floodplain. Concerned that
frequent flooding would impact landowners downstream of the highway. They do not want the channel spilling
out onto the floodplain frequently.
Leslie and Jim explained that at current flows, after the riffles
were installed the water level would be just at the top of the channel. Based on flow records, spilling over
onto the floodplain would probably not occur more than once every ten
years. Maximum flows are 100 cfs
for deliveries.
- Questions asked: Is the original channel
area under the proposed conceptual design (50 sq. ft.) adequate to handle
high flows? Do we know how much
sediment is coming from the Guidici project area versus the downstream
reach? Leslie stated we could get
some idea from turbidity measurements taken above and below the splitter
dam. (??)
- The
committee asked the landowners what the purposes of the levies were along
the channel. Ted said they hold
back the tail water from irrigation dropping back into the channel causing
erosion and to hold the irrigation water on the fields.
- Landowner
objectives are to increase irrigation efficiency, raise the channel level
so vegetation along the banks can get established, and stop bank
erosion.
- Landowners
are working with NRCS to fence off floodplain (70 feet on either side of
the creek) and replacing diversion dams.
It was noted that diversion dams might need head gates if
landowners don’t want the water accessing the floodplain.
- Dennis
questioned the public benefit if we are not restoring the function of the
floodplain and can we justify using public funds for this project. Leslie said one of the objectives in
the Prop. 40 grant was improvement of irrigation efficiency. She felt the project had many public
benefits including water quality and erosion control.
- Landowners
expressed their nervousness with people doing plant and wildlife surveys
on their property. Afraid they
might find an endangered plant or animal and shut down their ranching
operation. Leslie assured them
that the information gathered would not go anywhere without their consent. All environmental survey work is being
funded by a landowner.

Eroding bank on Guidici Ranch. May 2, 2006