FR-CRM Monitoring TAC

AGENDA & MINUTES

5/30/03

Attending:  Fraser Sime, Kevin Pond, Clay Clifton, Ken Cawley, Dennis Heiman, Cris Bailey, Jim Wilcox, Leslie Mink

 

1.     Review ’99 and ’01 watershed monitoring data and data mgmt. TAC really likes the Goodrich SCI site, and wants to re-approach Beatty Co. for access there.

-         Review Final Report Tables we went ove the list of question Leslie had for averyone.  See list for more info.

-         DWR assistance - Database Management Kris is about 70% finished with re-formatting data into a databse format, Bedload samples lab started analyzing samples on 5/30/03.  Check at end of June to get data.

-    Focus of final report (to be on summarizing data, not analysis, not statistics??) - yes

 

2.     What data, and if, to collect in 2003 & how to format

-         Move Butt and Red Clover sites? Collect WQ, temperature, and bugs at Red Clover, move work with FS to get their data for the Chase SCI site.  (Notson Bridge deposition is affected by the bridge too muc, so we won’t use this site).  Drum bridge site is so bouldery that it is not a good site to show indications of what upstream watershed conditions are like.  HOWEVER, it will be good to continue that water quality info because the Chase site just looks at Red Clover Valley, the Drum bridge site shows really how all of Red Clover affects Indian Cr., in terms of water quality.  For Butt, Cr, Leslie needs to get more info from Ken Roby – where are their 2 sites, and is it good to keep our site to add to all of the data, or would it be best to move it to one of their sites?

-         Review of what parameters to collect at non-alluvial channels for this year, continue to collect all the data, we’re still early enough, and setting baseline variability, that its good to get more data on all of these sites.  At some future time, like after a few more data collection efforts, we may decide to scale back the geomorphic data collection at non-alluvial sites?

-         Eshock each site?  yes (clarification on DWR help)  DWR can help with electroshocking equipment, and one person.  CRM would have to supply the other crew members. (Probably good for this higher flow year) yes (need a permit) How often? Yes, collect this year, but not every other year.

-         Macroinvertebrates Dennis will get about five metrcis to summarize the copious analysis data into.

-         Farenheit for all temp data? Yes.  FS uses F and everyone understands it.  Leslie will ask Tim Sagraves to re-program Contiunous recording stations to F for WY04.

-         WQ collection DWR collect? Fraser to check if Jerry Bole’s shop has time, if not, Leslie will get collection protocols from Dennis’ contract lab and DWR, and collect the samples, and send them to the RWQCB contract lab., we collect?, DWR analyze?

 

3.     Project monitoring: group reviewed this list and had no comment

     - hobo temps into Spanish Cr

     - pre-project @ Poplar (fish, habitat typing, bugs)

     - continue well reading at Last Chance, Stone Dairy, Hosselkus, Clarks

     - veg monitoring at Last Chance (pre-project), Clarks (Hobotemps, too) & Hosselkus (continue)

     - continue w/ flows at Big Flat w/ Sagraves

     - DWR doing post-project wildlife at Clarks

-         September flight photos

-         Assistance with Last Chance project monitoring (clarification on DWR help) again, DWR can help with one person and an e-shocker if we need it.

 

4.  Weather Stations and back up systems  Kevin will purchase some back up rain buckets for the weather stations.  Will try and get Tville station in befreo 6/30, but not looking good.  DWR lands and right-of-way dept snafu.

 

5.     New Sulphur Station & citizen monitoring station should go in this fall, and citizen monitoring  coord. to go under contract soon.

 

 

 

Data review questions to TAC 5/30/03

 

Geomorphic & Habitat Parameters table

-          good indicators?  Others? Add D50 from  pebble count (only collectged in ’01).

 

-          Keep same indicators at all sites, or just do water quality at some sites (NFFR abv Almanor?, others?) for this year, keep same at all sites, after we get lots of maybe 3-4 more years of baseline data, we could scale back.

 

-          SCI parameters measured but not summarized here are: 

 

max BF depth, used for ER calc keep out of summery

 

wood (pretty much zero everywhere), no, add this back in., not to SCI level, though, just tally up number of pieces that are hydraulically or structurally affecting the channel.

 

FP width (I think its just used to calc entrench ratio??), right, keep out of summary

 

bank depth (I just used %=0)  this is redundant, in fact, % shore depth = zero is redu7ndant – delete from table.

 

 

-          helpful (and/or valid?) to add columns for # parameters improve >10%, and degrading >10? ???

 

-          are there a thresholds of change? From Roby – not really, you have to set your own confidence level, and look at it from that standpoint.

 

-          Can any conclusions be drawn from this data or is it valid to do that at this time?  (Richard suggests we’re still collecting baseline) still baseline, summarize, but no conclusions

 

-          Some parameters are easy to interpret degrade vs. improve, others aren’t.  ER?

BF width

Avg BF depth (can’t these just be summarized in W/D?) some need to be looked at in conjunction with others.  Keep BF depth and width, because that tells the reader what size channel it is.  Keep ER – its not the best, but its standard. Include in report a discussion of the meanings of the parameters.

 

-          Entrenchment is Fpwidth/Bfwidth.  Would it be more useful for us to have a Top of Terrace area / BF area?? Don’t use area, it doesn’t tell you as much as ER.

 

I need to write a rationale for sampling NFFR abv Almanor, Indian abv Spanish, and Jamison.  People explain, and I forget.  They don’t seem very alluvial to me. Never mind

 

CRS station summary tables

 

Group by year or station? Both? both

 

Are these summaries good? Others? Delete mean daily water temp.  reword 7-day avg column “number of times that the 7-day average exceeds 19C.  Include a discussion in report of significance of 66F and 75F. (fish biology)

 

General Report

 

Organize by location or type of data station?

 

Organize by subwatershed?

 

Put in context of watershed “snapshot”?

 Put in context of watershed happenings,and organize by location, but don’t need a nested analysis.