FR-CRM Monitoring TAC meeting notes from 1/22/04 meeting

Present:  Fraser Sime, Dennis Heiman, Jim Ham, Jim Wilcox, Ken Cawley, Kevin Pond, Kris Kingsley, Terry Benoit, Ken Roby, Denny Churchill, Pat Huckabee, Leslie Mink (recording)

 

There was no agenda prepared for the meeting other than an email listing of what would be discussed.

1)      Presentation of database developed by Jim Ham and Kris Kingsley of DWR:  Jim presented features of the database they developed, and gave the CRM staff a copy of it on a CD.  After some discussion, it was decided that the CRM staff currently does not have the expertise nor the money and time to invest in the skills needed to populate and maintain this database.  Pat Huckabee from DWR was also at the mtg.  She can work with Leslie this year, before 6/30 to re-organize the monitoring data into excel spreadsheets that resemble a database, instead of the current site-specific file structure.  The only problem with this is that Leslie has no funding for monitoring right now.  As soon as there is some funding, Leslie will get together with Pat and look at the database.

2)      The rest of the mtg was spent on review comments on the draft final report of the SWAMP watershed monitoring grant.  The final report of this grant, basically included all of the watershed monitoring data collected since 1999, even though this grant funded the program only since 2001.  The following points were discussed:

-         Does the geomorphic monitoring really reflect what’s going on in the watershed, or is it more reflective of the site?  Ken Roby’s response was that it reflects on-site disturbance more if there is a lot of on-site disturbance.  If there isn’t, it probably is a better reflection of upstream conditions, and that SCI was meant for smaller watersheds (like 10,000 acres) than where the CRM sites are.  Ken Cawley added that using just one sampling site for such a large area could be problematic.  It was decided to continue with the geomorphic monitoring, but to re-evaluate each site for parameters to be monitored and the appropriate frequency. (This was included in the final version of the report).  Ken Roby also mentioned that there is MS thesis work being done using all of USFS R5 SCI data to see how well it does reflect changes in watersheds.  It should be noted that pebble counts are good for gravel substrate reaches, and that they are biased toward larger particles.

-         Are there other technologies available such as remote sensing that can help us assess channel morphology, riparian and meadow habitats that may be better than SCI surveys?  Denny Churchill mentioned that satellite imagery can be used to ID wet areas.  We could see what is available on the NRCS and USGS websites.

-         Should we beef up sediment monitoring?  There was not a consensus to do a higher level of sediment monitoring at this time, mainly due to expense, and the limited value of the data, because it can be influenced by so many things in the watershed.

-         Should we continue water quality monitoring?  Since water quality (other than temperature and sediment) is not a major concern in the watershed, it was suggested to use the bug sampling as a screen for further metals monitoring.  Nothing was decided about the other constituents.

-         More effective integration with other monitoring – this report can be useful to the Ag waiver monitoring, and needs to be better coordinated with the Forest Service SCI effort.

-         Other comments on the report included:

o       Program objectives and design need to be stated more clearly.

o       Executive summary needs to be longer and really summarize the report.

o       List significant findings in bullet statements.

o       Make more definitive conclusions per site.

o       Discuss long-term strategy, stating what should be collected where, and at what frequency, and the rationale behind each monitoring regime (like is the site being monitored for water supply beneficial use, to help out with Ag waiver monitoring, because there is increased disturbance in the watershed, etc.)

o       Get a set of the most recent aerial photos of each site.